Skip Navigation Links
Home
Donate
Free News via Email
Subscribe for a Friend
Send News Tip
Contact Us
Search
About Us
Is California Catholic Daily important to you?
You can help keep us online!
HELP WANTED ADS
See All Help Wanted Ads
Submit Help Wanted Ad
POSITIONS WANTED ADS
See Position Wanted Ads
Submit Position Wanted Ad
Churches Worth Driving To
* Submit Your Church *

News from the Trenches
Grow a uterus!...
Advertise with us
Currently more than 150,000 visitors read CalCatholic.com
Servant of God! Father John Hardon, S.J.
Refuse to Choose! Women deserve better!
Changing Times! Holistic approach in education.
CLASSIFIED ADS
See All Classified Ads
Submit Classified Ad
CALENDAR
See All Calendar Items
Submit Calendar Item
LATEST FEEDBACK
German prelate to head Vatican doctrinal congregation KENNETH M. FISHER there you go again, using the word 'hereti... [max - 7/6/2012 6:45:51 PM]
Same-sex attractions in youth Retaction Gene, you are correct in what you are saying. I h... [Mark from PA - 7/6/2012 6:31:16 PM]
Will she be removed? Archbishop Jose Gomez is a wonderful bishop. Shame on whoev... [Shirley J. Schultz - 7/6/2012 5:59:07 PM]
A Constitutional wreck Constitutional validity depends entirely on an educated, pro... [JLS - 7/6/2012 4:55:28 PM]
Parents should not block vocations "Why does he call so few?" by Bob One: I cannot fathom how ... [JLS - 7/6/2012 4:46:36 PM]

Links to Other Sites
Prior Site Archives
Article Archives

“Cement cubes, glass boxes, crazy shapes”

Italian daily says Vatican about to establish commission to discourage ugly churches, uses photo of Crystal Cathedral to illustrate its point


A photo of the Orange diocese’s newly acquired Crystal Cathedral was used by an Italian daily to illustrate a Nov. 21 story about the creation of a new Vatican commission that will “crack down” on architectural abuses.

“Cardinal Antonio Cañizares Llovera, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and Benedict XVI, consider this work as ‘very urgent,’” the Italian daily La Stampa reports. The newspaper is known for its “Vatican Insider” project, staffed by experienced journalists well connected to sources inside the Holy See. Yesterday’s story was published in the newspaper’s “Vatican Insider” report.

“The reality is staring everyone in the eyes: in recent decades, churches have been substituted by buildings that resemble multi purpose halls,” said the report, written by Andrea Tornielli. “Too often, architects, even the more famous ones, do not use the Catholic liturgy as a starting point and thus end up producing avant-garde constructions that look like anything but a church. These buildings composed of cement cubes, glass boxes, crazy shapes and confused spaces, remind people of anything but the mystery and sacredness of a church. Tabernacles are semi hidden, leading faithful on a real treasure hunt and sacred images are almost inexistent.”

“The new commission’s regulations will be written up over the next few days and will give precise instructions to dioceses,” wrote Tornielli. “It will only be responsible for liturgical art, not for sacred art in general; and this also goes for liturgical music and singing too. The judicial powers of the Congregation for Divine Worship will have the power to act.”

Prominently displayed at the top left of the story was a photo of the Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove, with the caption: “California -- The controversial ‘Crystal Cathedral,’ which has just been purchased by the Diocese of Orange.”

To read the full story in La Stampa, Click Here.


READER COMMENTS

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:29 AM By charlio
While they're at it, La Stampa should mention the need to conduct a purification of the facility. This is after Catholic-friendly Jack Van Impe's finding, (he broke with TBN over it), that Crystal Cathedral founder Robert Schuller (of the "Hour of Power", Health & Wealth "gospel" fame), was among those advocating the syncretistic "Chrislam", combination of "Christianity" and Islam. Whatever you think of Islam, that's an abomination worthy of an exorcism.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:26 AM By Cyrus
The churches and cathedrals in Europe are very old, very beautiful and very empty. In California we need buildings that are appropriate for the weather and geology. Car-friendly helps too. The Crystal Cathedral is a beautiful building on sprawling grounds and is quite comfortable even in summer. It also seems to have inspired the Cathedral of Christ the Light in Oakland, which was predictably criticized for its non-European design. One of the priests there responded to the criticism by saying, "You can go to Europe and see Gothic cathedrals. You can come to Oakland and see this."

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:09 AM By Juergensen
Yes, the Crystal Cathedral is appalling. On the other hand, as a venue to preach heresy, foster dissent, and otherwise shortchange the truth, its suitability is undeniable.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 5:39 AM By Richard L
I agree with Juergensen, the so called Crystal Cathedral is simply perfect for the so called Bishop Tod Brown.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 5:59 AM By FourMarks
Bp T. Brown must not have gotten Cdl Canizares-Llovera's memo until it was too late... or if he did, it must've slipped his mind. Question now is, will the H.F. intervene to squash the CC acquisition deal up front (if possible), or correct the sorry situation by appoint a replacement bishop in the Diocese of Orange forthwith, and directing the sale of the CC complex ASAP? For his signal service, will Bp Brown be transferred to Rome and become a member of the CDF, or the rector of a notable seminary? Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:02 AM By Bud
Amazingly if my memory is correct, the bishop has the money to pay for the monstrosity. He wants this "Windex" commercial looking place to enhance his prestige while the money is sorely needed for more Christian endeavors. Don't start quoting Mary Magdalen's washing the Lord's feet with expensive oils as a defense!

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:03 AM By David
How these Christians love one another! And how carefully they justify their caustic, poisoned judgments! Satan must rejoice.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:13 AM By oc catholic
Juergensen is correct. The cathedral is a bad idea.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:31 AM By Pops
Cyrus writes: "The Crystal Cathedral is a beautiful building..." Anybody who thinks the "Window Monstrosity" is beautiful must also think the emperor's new clothes are gorgeous!

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:32 AM By Catherine
FourMarks, Inquiring minds want to know? Bishop Tod D. Brown did much for gay rights in his previous Diocese of Boise. Bishop Brown's very first public interview with the Orange Register informed readers that gay rights were very important to him. On page 57 of the Orange County Catholic Commemorative issue their is a birthday message from Bishop Michael F. Driscoll and the people of the Diocese of Boise. The message reads, "On Behalf of the people of the Diocese of Boise, we wish you avery Happy 75th Birthday and our best wishes as you retire and head for the "open road".... Yours in Christ Bishop Michael F. Driscoll ...Yes, FourMarks there are actually quote marks accentuating the words open road....see page 57

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:38 AM By Sarah
Just get rid of it. The diocese could still sell it to Chapman University or some other group. In addition to not looking like a place for Catholic worship, when the "big one" (earthquake) occurs, it would become a mass grave for those inside. The only cathedral that is uglier and less Catholic is the Our Lady Queen of Angels monstrosity that Cardinal Mahoney built to honor himself.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:29 AM By JMJ
I hope that the Vatican will make this measure retroactive & tear down all of those horrible "churches": the new one at Fatima & that nightmare in Los Angeles for starters, & to stop the Bishop from wasting God's money on that ugly glass building that surely doesn't give God any glory. Wait, maybe if they take out all of the glass windows & replace them with Roman Catholic stained glass windows, they might have some kind of saving grace to it. +JMJ+

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:45 AM By JLS
"They shall know we are Christians by our buildings".

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:05 AM By JLS
Interesting how some people believe that love is being nice and putting on a politically correct persona. That is not only not what Jesus or any of the accounts of Bible characters portray or say. Love is laying down your life for your brother, neighbor, enemy. What does this have to do with smiley faces?

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:44 AM By Maryanne Leonard
There are two remedies for ugly buildings if you value the land they sit on, which, in this case, is far more valuable than the purchase price. The first is to remodel, and the second is tear it down and start over, probably the long-term plan. I expect that the next bishop will start a building fund for a new cathedral pretty quickly. Come back in 100 years and I don't think you will see anything remotely like what we are seeing today. Just pray that the architect they choose is both Catholic and respectful of our amazing Catholic church architectural heritage. The firm that designed the beautiful new chapel at Thomas Aquinas College in Ventura County is the only modern architect I know of who is up to this task. I say let's find out his name and let's contact him without delay and start a movement to get the next bishop and this wonderful architect talking before it's too late. None of us is going to be here forever, but if we seize the moment and plan it and build it correctly, a beautiful new cathedral for the Diocese of Orange County worthy of its purpose can be here for centuries.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:51 AM By FrMichael
Juergensen: Your succinct comment is the best commentary I have read anywhere on the Crystal Cathedral story. Touche!

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:34 AM By Augustine
The abominable Crystal Cathedral was a perfectly logical acquisition, according perfectly with every manner of NewChurch vulgarity.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:35 AM By Lester
The Vatican commission should rather give example of the cathedral built in downtown Los Angeles. It is an example of true ugliness - barn like structure composed of cubes slapped together, confused interior space and the tabernacle hidden in far away room inside an egyptian sarcophagus. A for Crystal Cathedral I don't think it is ugly.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:37 AM By FourMarks
Catherine- Does your quote from Bp Driscoll's encomium mean that Bp Brown does in fact have a retirement date established? Or is that just a bit of poetic licence on Bp Driscoll's part? Maryanne Leonard- Duncan G. Stroik, Architect LLC. My guess is his firm is not in Bp Brown's rolodex.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM By Rick DeLano
Ummm, Maryanne, the money to build a new cathedral was just wasted on the Protestant modernist monstrosity. Get used to it. Consider it a penance, an aid to reflecting upon the stupendous disasters which befell us during these awful times.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM By Abeca Christian
Great article! I wish it came before they purchased this ugly building. Why do some Mormons have nicer buildings. In San Diego, La Jolla area, the Mormon temple is way nicer than this glass building. I'm not saying I approve of the Mormon temple but i am saying that it does point out to the heavens and the glass building does not. Why doesn't the dioceses just tear it down and build a Cathedral like the one they have at the Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, California. Their Cathedral is so beautiful, I walked in and felt lead to wonder off into the heavens praise God! It inspired me!

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:01 AM By Matthew
Pope Benedict XVI is a very well educated man. In addition to theology and philosophy he's also a man of the arts. I am sure he will approve the purchase of the Crystal Cathedral as it is a well designed church and campus.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:01 AM By Catherine
Just great! Tear the CC down and watch the worldwide outrage of fellow Christians who *will* view this as a cruel example of how Catholics treat other Christians. They will show people on television weeping and crying. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Sermons will be given at Calvary chapels and elsewhere ensuring the sheep who have left their Catholic faith that Catholicism really deserved their departure. What an tremendous opportunity for the news media to bash Catholics even more, causing not a bridge but a vehicle to cause separation even more. Was the goal to create more division and drive an even greater wedge than the wedges that already exist. Congratulations then. This was a brilliant move in causing division. This glass temple, unattractive as it may seem to faithful Catholics, has been a major symbol of Protestant televangelism. This is not a win, win situation. This is a *major* can of worms situation. Solomon would immediately dissolve any contract associated with this entire property. Can you not see the propaganda of anger and bitterness on worldwide television as the wrecking ball tears this glass house down? This was an unfair and unwise burden placed on Holy Mother Church. God will hold many accountable. Do not say that there are no other properties in Orange County that could have served the same needs of the Church. Do not bring up the cost prohibitive expenses of achieving this goal on another site. The Diocese of Orange obviously does have the money to do anything they please. For those Catholics who do not do Legion of Mary door to door evangelization to lovingly try to reach out to bring many Protestants back home, this poor decision might not really seem that bad. This horrible decision has made the already difficult share of the gospel even much more difficult.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:06 AM By Paul Peter
The volume of hate and ignorance being displayed on this thread is appalling. As "David" so rightly noticed "Satan must rejoice." If the negative commentary here is truly indicative of the way "traditionalists" think then I am beginning to understand why they remain such a tiny and non-influential part of the Catholic Church.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:12 AM By John James
Just a couple of tidbits for the intellectually weak. 1.) The Crystal Cathedral was designed to withstand an 8.0 earthquake. 2.) No way could it be torn down. It would be included on a federal preservation list in a week if anyone tried. I read the hateful and ignorant postings above and it makes me feel VERY good that the Crystal Cathedral was purchased. The ignorance and intolerance of some self-described "traditionalists" is utterly repugnant. FWIW the chapel at TAC is designed in the "cookbook" tradition. I'll leave it to you to find out what that means.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:29 PM By LMM
The beautiful churches of Europe are empty not because they are beautiful, but because Europe has lost the Faith. Churches can be built to serve the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and accurately express the Catholic Faith which is God-centered, not man-centered, and still be equipped with sufficient climate control systems. Efficient climate control systems can also be installed into older buildings without comprimising their beauty. Beauty btw, is not subjective.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 1:24 PM By Juergensen
Thank you, Fr. Michael.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 2:27 PM By Mark
I don't care much for modern architecture but I like the Crystal Cathedral and I am glad the diocese is taking it over. The problem is not with the church buildings and designs, its the horrid liturgies going on inside of them.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:10 PM By Jay
I'm always amused by comments like David's and others who seem to think satan rejoices when christians disagree. Perhaps he should pick up a history book. Correcting those in error is a divine mandate, and it should be vigorously done.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:16 PM By Maryanne Leonard
This purchase has shocked and dismayed many people, and now we see it has become an extremely divisive issue among people who generally see eye-to-eye on most topics of interest to Catholics. To post observations about any aspect of it is to make oneself a target. John James directs his comments to the "intellectually weak," which may mean me specifically or all of us in general, stating that the visual obimination knowns as the Crystal Cathedral is designed to withstand an 8.0 earthquake and that "it would be included on a federal preservation list in a week if anyone tried." Of course we all know that many buildings, including the lost edifices in New York, will eventually come down and are all subject to miscalculation of the forces of nature and society. We intellectually weak have faith that the owner of an edifice can usually do what the owner wants, and that bringing down buildings professionally is a highly developed art. We who are deemed intellectually weak also have managed, with great pain, to know what John James means by calling the beautiful new chapel at TAC designed in the "cookbook" tradition. We also understand his terms, "hateful," "ignorant," "intolerance" and "repugnant. John James, please have pity on intellectually weak me, I don't know what you meant by "FWIVV," or FWIW." Your intellectual superiority is acknowledged, but please, I beg of you, do enlighten us mental weaklings with your brilliant code, used as a substitute for standard English. I know only 5 languages and haven't yet mastered yours.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:58 PM By JLS
John James, evidently you've never seen the church at TAC.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:48 PM By JLS
Yessiree, John James, you've supplied a tidbit of intellect. Bigger than 8.0 is known to California, btw. But you're right about it becoming a federally protected site, and even a United Nations protected site.

Posted Tuesday, November 22, 2011 6:22 PM By Jim
David, it sounds like you yourself are judging!

Posted Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:42 AM By JudeThom
It is about time the Vatican is doing something about the sad state of post Vatican II church architecture. The Vatican waited too long, however. There are too many modern "Ugly as Sin" secular meeting hall churches that look like Protestant churches. The cathedral in Los Angeles is an example. We do not need twisted crucifixes that look like UFO butterfly nets, or religious statues that resemble loads of plaster, or even blank empty walls that bespeak coldness and sterility. We needs traditional Catholic symbols like icons and side altars. Once Catholic churches begin to look like every other Protestant church, that's when the Catholic Church is treated just like any other church.

Posted Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:45 AM By JudeThom
While the Catholic cathedrals of Europe are indeed beautiful, the intrusion of the modern altar table in front of centuries old high altars looks pretty bad. When I was in Vienna last year, every beautiful old church had a clumsy looking "kitchen table" set up in front of the primary high altar. It is a sad sight. Vatican II did dreate chaos.

Posted Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:51 AM By JudeThom
Europe has lost the faith because of the spiral out-of-control "reforms" instituted after Vatican II. Pope Benedict himself has stated, "Change the Liturgy, and you change everything." What about this statement don't many people understand? Do the Orthodox have problems with modern church architecture? No, and that's because the Orthodox have the sense to maintain the base elements of tradition, whereas the Latin Church has gone off the mark. Seems to be that lay ministers in secular dress, altar girls and communion in hand go hand-in-hand with Catholic churches that looks like VFW meeting halls. I hope it is not too late.

Posted Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:53 AM By JLS
Etch and stain the glass panes with holy pictures. Raise money by selling the privilege per pane.

Posted Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:07 AM By charlio
Take care when calling others' words "hateful". They may well be angry, and we'll all be called to account for our angry words. But we'll also be called to account for how we judge others personally.

Posted Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:10 AM By francvs
Does something need to be done about the Jubilee Church in the Diocese of Rome? If not, why does anything need to be done about the Diocese of Orange's Crystal Cathedral?

Posted Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:01 AM By JLS
You can google "jubilee church rome" and see what it looks like from the many photos. Unlike the CC, which looks like an office building, the Jubilee Church looks more like a church being blown over in a hurricane like tall palm trees. The interior is so barren that it would force people to express their personalities ... sort of like reverse psychology or negative motivation ... but this is a gambit, sort of like the non-action of bishops expecting their flocks go where led without being led.

Posted Wednesday, November 23, 2011 3:55 PM By Robert Bushlow
Please, let us have Churches that are clearly houses of worship. Churches that will be admired hundreds of years from now as those timeless architectural masterpieces that people from all over the world go to see and pray in. Not these monstrosities that look out of date by the time they are finished being built.

Posted Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:03 PM By Abeca Christian
Robert Bushlow I agree. You have eloquently expressed what most of us are feeling.

Posted Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:11 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
Wow, JLS I did google "jubilee church rome" and somewhat regret it. It is not as bad as the one in Vienna, but it would probably be a tie with the ones in Los Angeles, Sacramento, and San Franciso. God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher

Posted Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:27 PM By Abeca Christian
Mr Fisher I did google it too and yip, it is really ugly and worst than this one. Yikes.

Posted Thursday, November 24, 2011 8:16 AM By Bob One
Thanks for the suggestion to go to the web for pictures about the Jubilee church in Rome. Wow! It is, in my opinion, an outstanding example of how modern architecture can create a beautiful worship space. The placement of crucifix is splended, the altar is simple as it should be. Even the bell tower is good art. To each his own, I suppose, but I like the building, the interior "feel", the water leading to the front door, etc. All very symbolic and very Catholic. A good piece of work.

Posted Thursday, November 24, 2011 10:58 AM By Maryanne Leonard
I googled "Jubilee Church Rome" and found it just another cold, uninviting, sterile, modern structure best suited for the moon. I did not feel inspired to pray, one of this structure's purported purposes, nor to play, the other purpose for which it was built, as a community center serving the nearby lower- and middle-class housing it abuts. Most of us could have come up with a more inspiring design, and a community college student could have planned its execution just as well. This famous architect probably has garnered praise from other Bobs here and there and certainly commanded a huge salary, but unfortunately probably without a money-back guarantee. If ever there were a case to be made for recycling used building materials, this would be it.

Posted Thursday, November 24, 2011 2:18 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
You all should "google" the Cathedral in Vienn, Austria. Yipes! Bob would love it. God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher

Posted Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:43 PM By JLS
Some people are simply afraid to be alone, and so they insist on "spaces" and create them in such ways as to forbid anyone from being alone. More power to these people who prefer to huddle like sardines in a can ... leaves more worship space in more traditionally contemplatively designed churches for those who worship God through the Sacraments rather than through each other.

Posted Friday, November 25, 2011 1:17 AM By Karl Hein
If Bishop Tod David Brown is having buyers' remorse, then he need only inform a few people at the pens-opinion website, now featuring a headline that Chapman University will pay $59-million cash for what was my "glass box" church, willing to sell core buildings back to the Protestant local/global ministry that built it. Crystal Cathedral was suitable for worship the last 31 years- and built to last 500!

Posted Friday, November 25, 2011 8:02 AM By JLS
Karl, "suitable for worship"? By this standard, so is the local recreation room at the local school, library, park, large estate, convention center, bus depot, shopping mall, baseball dugout. Do you have anything in mind by "suitable for worship"?

Posted Friday, November 25, 2011 10:21 AM By Rick DeLano
Congrats to Cal Catholic- this story has been picked up all over the world, and a picture of the ugly modernist Protestant glass box monstrosity has appeared in the Italian daily "La Stampa", as then poster child of its report on the Vatican cracking down on ugly church architecture.One thing for sure- Bishop Brown has certainly secured his legacy.

Posted Saturday, November 26, 2011 12:04 AM By Catherine
Rick DeLano's comment "One thing for sure, Bishop Brown has certainly secured his legacy," is very much worth reflecting on. President Obama is also working fast and furious on a legacy. How disturbing it should be to Catholics that both of these men have used the assistance of left wing organizations to achieve legacies that are not in keeping with their originally appointed missions as servants of the people and as servants of God. We see this most recently with Bishop Tod D. Brown allowing the ACLU, pro-homosexual and other left wing groups the permission to assemble on Catholic Church property. Similarly, when people comment, "Oh, that President Obama, he does not know what he is doing and his inexperience is running this country into the ground." Wake up sleepy Catholics, President Obama knows exactly what he is doing with the dismantling of morals, and certain rights and freedoms in society. This is a legacy that he would like to secure. The downfall of America as we once knew, would be a badge of honor to those who hate the goodness that America once stood for. In a similar fashion, Bishop Tod Brown's legacy of purchasing the Crystal Cathedral is also a legacy of disobedience in safeguarding the Deposit of Faith and rebellion against the intended sacred design geared toward the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Two appointed servants earning a terrible legacy by not rightfully serving the master that they were created and appointed to serve. ..."America, America, May God thy gold refine, till all success be nobleness, And every gain divine!"

Posted Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:14 AM By Tony Costa
What a disgrace for a Catholic church!!! Thank The good ole Bish for another ; "DID IT MY WAY"!!!

Posted Saturday, November 26, 2011 2:04 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
my comments of 2:18 PM above should have read "Vienna, Austria". I was not going to make this correction, but on reading some of the comments on this site, decided that it may be necessary after all. God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher

Posted Sunday, November 27, 2011 9:00 AM By Tony Costa
Does anyone really know when this Bishop is retiring and allowing a new real conservative Bishop who sticks to the Catholic way it suppose to have been??

Posted Sunday, November 27, 2011 3:24 PM By Bob One
The normal practice is for a Bishop to submit his request for retirement on his 75th birthday. I think the average time to name a new Bishop is around 14-24 months. One problem we have in the States is that the Nuncio just died and his replacement showed up a week or so ago. He knew most of the Bishops in this country, talked to them about who would make good candidates and submitted the names to the Vatican for consideration. The congregation of Bishops supmits three names to the Pope for appointment. He can accept theri recommendation and pick one of them, or reject the recommendation. If he rejects the recommendations, he can name his own person or ask the congregation to go back to the drawing board. With this process, it is always good to keep in mind that the Bishop is appointed by the Pope. It is his choice alone. So, that tells me, at least, that they all represent what he thinks is good in a Bishop. So the replacement for Bishop Brown will be someone that the Pope thinks is the right person, not someone of our choosing. If you have suggestions, however, you can always submit them to the new Nuncio, who doesn't know anyone yet. He has said that he will rely on the current Bishops to jhelp him recommed names to Rome.

Posted Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:03 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
Miracles can and do happen, we must pray for a miracle in Orange County; however none of the present Auxiliaries are anything to brag about. God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher

Posted Monday, November 28, 2011 3:46 AM By MIKE
Bob One, there just doesn't appear there are enough good men to be named Bishops. Far too many Bishops do not do their job, and abrogate their duties to the USCCB or State Conferences which have no theological basis in the Church. (- "RATZINGER REPORT, an Exclusive Interview on the State of the Church"). However if anyone knows of an excellent holy Priest who fully understands the CCC, and does not have a political agenda other than the word of God, is obedient to the Pope, sending a recommendation to the Papal Nuncio with documentation is a good idea. We need more like Cardinal Burke.

Posted Monday, December 05, 2011 11:35 PM By Richard
For an all-time classical Catholic church, Google Redemptore, Andrea Palladio. The calm facade speaks of death and eternal life. Dominating the facade is a great "black door." Above the door are 5 chevrons ∧ of gables and roofs, pointing to the emerging "ball" of a great dome and a triumphant Christ. The message is that a seemingly black door of death leads to rebirth into eternal life. Within a wide white interior, Palladio gradually increases light levels approaching the altar and thereby focuses the congregation's attention on the Mass. The Redemptore was visited once a year by the entire Venetian government, processing over water on a bridge of boats, as an act of contrition and petition for souls.

Posted Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:02 AM By Ham
The Pope should immediately find or make a saint named Crystal so we can name it "Saint Crystal Cathederal".

Posted Sunday, December 11, 2011 3:02 PM By Margo
First of all, all of you should keep in mind that this was not a Catholic church, so in purchasing it I'm sure that the Bishop fully understands that changes are going to have to be made so that the building will reflect the Catholic Church. I watched The Hour of Power for many years even after I came into the church. I think that before you bash the building and the way that it is built, you should thank Rev Schuler because that saves you the money and the raising for doing so. Maybe this will bring people back to the church. Think about it.

Posted Sunday, December 11, 2011 10:10 PM By JLS
Margo, do you think the reason why people left the Church is the architecture?

Posted Wednesday, December 28, 2011 5:35 PM By Margo
I don't know why people leave the church, it pains me as a convert to see or hear that people are leaving. I read somewhere a statement was made by Rev. Schuler that he'd rather give the building to the Catholic church than to someone who might not respect the space in which it was intended. Just think, one day you might be in need of the very building that you are so loudly bashing. Blessings

Posted Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:37 PM By JLS
Good point, Margo; what is the need for this building?

Posted Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:12 PM By Yohannim
I worked at Crystal Cathedral years ago , i'm a traditionalist and yet think it will work, it is going to take about 50 mil to change it from a happy clappy new age protestant church into a functioning Catholic Cathedral. Once they put a Tabernacle front and center in Crystal and remove the dorethy Chandler seats for pews with kneelers ya it will work, even for a beautiful Tridentine Liturgy. . Hope they keep the beautiful central fountain, the church has a lot of awesome features and the campus grounds are absolutely gorgeous.

Posted Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:49 PM By nina
It is not about buildings or architecture. It should be all about God. There is no need for images and the worship of Mary and a crucifix to be displayed and tabernacles and redesign the building so that it should be catholic. We should all be in unity and break away from tradition. God is not looking for tradition he is looking for his children to have a relationship with his son Jesus.

Posted Monday, July 02, 2012 6:37 PM By Lee
I've visited the Crystal Cathedral a couple of times. I found the visits to be inspiring and don't see why it can't become a highly honored and revered cathedral, just as much as most of the European cathedrals I've visited. It's an example of the art of our day, just as most cathedrals were when they were designed. Sagrada Familia is more of a shock to my system than the Crystal Cathedral could ever be.

Posted Monday, July 02, 2012 9:57 PM By JLS
Lee, does art create religion or does religion create art?

Posted Monday, July 02, 2012 9:58 PM By JLS
I wonder if the baptismal font is the regulation Olympic 50 meter style?

Post your Comment
Name:
Email: (Optional: Will not display)
Comment:
 
Comments are limited to 1500 characters, and cannot contain offensive or libelous language. For security, comments cannot contain html tags, including < and > symbols - and NO URLS or LINKS. Comments will appear after they have been approved by the editor. Inclusion of your email address is optional so the editor may contact you.



Calcatholic Mobile
Optimized for your
mobile device













Visitors since January 1st, 2009:
javascript hit counter